Why are there accents

Human Evolution and the Structure of Health and Disease: General Discussion: Why are there accents
Author: Anonymous
Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 10:23 am
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can someone explain why we have so many different races and accents

Author: freyja
Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 11:02 am
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I believe we have diffrent races because when are ancestors were evolving they lived in diffrent parts of the world. It was benifical for them to adapt to their enviorment by skin color, however that does not mean that we are of diffrent species. All modern humans are homo sapien sapiens regardless of race. As for accents and languages, well as we did live in diffrent places we couldn't all have developed the same language when our vocal chords first started to be able to make sounds. It's interesting that when childrent are small they make all types of sounds from various languages(they have to ability to learn any langauge) yet they are forgotten these sounds as they learn their native language and perhaps one or two other languages. We speak what we hear, if you live in one area long enough your language will probabaly begin to sound more and more like the people you live around. I hope that helped with your question a little.

Author: Jason
Monday, February 09, 2004 - 5:47 pm
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freyja is quite right to explain both language and 'racial' differences as being the result of isolation.

Human groups have diverged a very little bit due to periods of reproductive isolation (with or without geographic isolation).

Likewise, human languages have also diverged due to cultural isolation. Contrary to freyja's statement, it is likely that there was at one point in time a single ancestral language. For, it is far simpler to believe that the genetic changes required to enable the ability of language occured just once in one population. The alternative is for each seperate population to independently evolve the same characters. This seems highly unlikely.

There is a human gene known as FoxP2 that seems to have something to do with bestowing the ability to understand grammar. Humans with non-functioning copies of the gene have difficulty using grammar (amongst other developmental disorders).

Author: Kimberly Loma
Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 10:52 am
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I really liked freyja's explanation - simple and to the point. Jason added a bit more and actually I'd like to learn more about the gene FoxP2.

It's easy to wonder why we have different races and accents but look at the different environments different people live in. People in other countries have very different climates, food staples, and cultural influences. As for the accents I don't think it's smart to think that 3 billion people scattered all around the world would sound the same, a good example are birds taken from their native homes and placed on an island. There are lots of studies on that - the birds keep some of their natural sound but their songs change.

Author: Marcus Abundis
Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 11:29 am
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I found the book "The Journey of Man - A Genetic Odyssey" by spencer Wells a useful read on this matter. Although it addresses the question of race better than langauge. I think you will find that it agrees mostly with what has already been said.

Author: Anonymous
Monday, August 02, 2004 - 9:28 pm
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Wow, if you would read Genesis chapter 1-11 you would find all your answer's. Starting with the CREATION of man and in chapter 11 you see God confusing the rebellious men with different languages. Than I see where that isolated issue would stir. You all seem to have no problem with being of the same human nature, which is good. So why not creation?

Author: Anonymous
Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 7:03 pm
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Care to choose the correct creation sequence for us: Genesis 1 or Genesis 2:4 on? If we're going with a strict Biblical Creation, there's some problems in keeping the stories straight for the careful reader.

Seems like in Chapter 1 God made the world in seven days, followed by 6 more days to create things like land and seperating out seas, seperate darkness from light, plantlife, then the sun, moon and planets and a spangle of stars to light up day and night were placed in a fixed firmament shell set over all the land and sea, then sea life, then land life, finally man and woman as a complete pair matching other things created in balanced pairs or groups.

This sequence doesn't quite synchronize with Chapter 2:4 forward where God makes in one day the world and then a man from mud, a Garden, and then God sequentially makes and brings creatures for Adam to name, but Adam can't find a real friend amongst the array of creatures. So finally God comes up with a new idea and makes Adam a woman from his rib...which appears to have been a spliting out of the female and male from the original unity. And the reader is breathless wondering how could that go wrong--but you can see Adam's fussiness is a precipitating factor here, and it seems to indicate Adam just wasn't happy to simply be God's friend.

Of course, don't overlook somehow God managed to let a wily Serpent slip into the mix in the mean time, which is pivotal in Genesis 3. Maybe the Serpent was unhappy about not being chosen, but this serpent had a deadly agenda unsuitable to the perfect world and perfect Garden of Eden.

So if there's a real problem with human nature, Adam's fussiness in finding a friend set up his betrayal, and the distracting, dissembling serpent is the precipitator. The originally good human nature's weakness to require being male and female and heeding talking serpents is probably going to be something worth discussing with God in the afterlife. And all this in a set of stories which, if traced back through the generations described, puts the world's creation about 5,000 years ago.

So, if we're going to look at DNA distributions, changes over time, we have problems depending on Biblical time, since we see it's pointless to look back more than 5,000 years. Further,  the need to factor in talking serpents and the splitting of the human being into male and female complicates things, along with having a Tower of Babel a mere 4,000 years ago, when a number of civilization's written histories predate that.

While these stories may be instructive for moral development and be important theological resources, they don't provide material suitable for the operations of science which look for data as evidence in relation to rational explanative theory, within a overall context that the world can be rationally explained by observing natural processes.

Your proposal would seem to send us back to just before Gallileo's telescopic investigations, and make looking under the skin, or into the microscopic world unnecessary for explanations, and surrender vast technological opportunites and medical treatments.

We have DNA and a vast microbial world which wasn't ever a topic of discussion in the Good Book. But we must wonder on what day God made DNA-hijacking virii and good and bad (infectious) bacteria? And how does this help us understand how to deal with them? If God made them happen as part of 'the curse' (besides making women cranky on a lunar calendar), are we wrong to try to fix the damage they do? Is taking Midol a rebellion against God's ordained fate for women? Are AZT and it's ilk a rebellion as well against the judgment of God via AIDS?

My overall point is, trying to develop a science dependent upon the Bible limits us to working with understandings and perceptions the Hebrew tribe had 3,000 years ago. The Tower of Babel story which punished people by spreading them around the world and enforced their use of confusing languages might have helped a shepherd tribe understand why the other nations didn't speak Hebrew, but it wouldn't have given them much impetus  to learn the languages or get along with them either.

The other important teaching in this story is that humans learning too much knowledge and technology will result in God acting to disrupt humanity's mind, memory, society and culture. That would make it easy to conclude the Biblical Almighty God is a harsh adversary of science and humanity's progress.



 

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